What other CMS is good for a marketing blog other than wordpress?

KeralMTG

Active Member
Hi friends I want to know if any body else has used a CMS other than wordpress to make a blog and what CMS it was? I am wanting to see what other CMS will work good for this. I have not used any others so I do not know what else works good.
 

Catherine1

Active Member
I have never had one personally but some people make blogs with drupal and joomla. I was looking at those for potential use for making a blog but wordpress just has so much more things available for it and lots more users to get help from.
 

ProfMike

Active Member
When I develop blogs for my customers, now these are usually business sites for promoting business products, we develop them from scratch. On the business side there is too much front end load on the out of the box CMS systems. They are way too big and far too slow.

Plus on a business aspect, the out of the box solutions are difficult to secure. Because of their popularity they have a lot of individuals going after them to break into the systems. It would be foolish for a large organization with a lot of customer data to use something that is constantly under attach from hackers.

What are you looking to setup. There are some good systems out there that are very specific to a particular audience. These are good CMS systems with a very focused audience.
 

Dean

Well-Known Member
Hi friends I want to know if any body else has used a CMS other than wordpress to make a blog and what CMS it was? I am wanting to see what other CMS will work good for this. I have not used any others so I do not know what else works good.
Hi,

I'm just curious as to why you are wanting another CMS other than Wordpress? Are you looking for some other features that another CMS might have? If there is something in particular you need or are looking for then if you let us know then we might be able to better point you in the right direction.

Another option would be to build your own CMS for your blog. If you don't know how to do this yourself, then you might consider learning this. That way whenever you have a particular need for a site, you can just do it yourself, exactly like you want it to be. Just a thought.

Cheers, Dean
 

KeralMTG

Active Member
I have never had one personally but some people make blogs with drupal and joomla. I was looking at those for potential use for making a blog but wordpress just has so much more things available for it and lots more users to get help from.
Yes I saw those 2 cms but was just curious what else people have used.
 

KeralMTG

Active Member
When I develop blogs for my customers, now these are usually business sites for promoting business products, we develop them from scratch. On the business side there is too much front end load on the out of the box CMS systems. They are way too big and far too slow.

Plus on a business aspect, the out of the box solutions are difficult to secure. Because of their popularity they have a lot of individuals going after them to break into the systems. It would be foolish for a large organization with a lot of customer data to use something that is constantly under attach from hackers.

What are you looking to setup. There are some good systems out there that are very specific to a particular audience. These are good CMS systems with a very focused audience.
I am mostly just looking for something that has a main index page with some general information and also a blog for writing articles that are related to marketing and maybe some affiliate items. I mainly would like something that is easy to use and maybe has less things it needs like a wordpress blog does.
 

KeralMTG

Active Member
Hi,

I'm just curious as to why you are wanting another CMS other than Wordpress? Are you looking for some other features that another CMS might have? If there is something in particular you need or are looking for then if you let us know then we might be able to better point you in the right direction.

Another option would be to build your own CMS for your blog. If you don't know how to do this yourself, then you might consider learning this. That way whenever you have a particular need for a site, you can just do it yourself, exactly like you want it to be. Just a thought.

Cheers, Dean
Mostly I would like to see if there is anything that has less things it needs than a wordpress site. Less plugins and is more simple in the way to make blog posts. I just want a main index page and a blog for making posts relate to marketing.
 

ProfMike

Active Member
I am mostly just looking for something that has a main index page with some general information and also a blog for writing articles that are related to marketing and maybe some affiliate items. I mainly would like something that is easy to use and maybe has less things it needs like a wordpress blog does.

Based on what your requirements are I would go for a application that is a basic platform. There are quite a few simple CMS systems that would fit your requirements.

PICO is a good simple CMS system and is very fast, lightweight and has a pretty good support community. Kirby is also a pretty good blogging platform, it is very easy to use, simple to learn and it has a unique feature named the Kirby panel that lets you control how the content is added, whether it be a blog post, page, or a gallery. RazorCMS is another good flat file CMS that has most of the features of a full fledged blogging system but is very small, fast and has a simple learning curve.

All the CMS systems I mentioned and these are just a few of the many that are out there, these are all flt file systems. The biggest difference you will see in a flat CMS is that it does not require a database. A flat CMS stores any website data or content in files and folders only. Without querying to retrieve content from the database, you enjoy the rapid loading of your website. You can also skip the cumbersome installation process; simply upload files to the server and the website is ready.

There are some unique advantages to a flat file system and they tend to be more secure. Now if you plan to have hundreds of pages they can be a little more difficult to maintain. But for a small system these would serve you well.

Personally I would write my own, especially if you plan to be doing this for awhile. The knowledge you would gain would be a great asset as you developed your web master skills. But again that is just a personal opinion.

I hope this helps.
 

KeralMTG

Active Member
Based on what your requirements are I would go for a application that is a basic platform. There are quite a few simple CMS systems that would fit your requirements.

PICO is a good simple CMS system and is very fast, lightweight and has a pretty good support community. Kirby is also a pretty good blogging platform, it is very easy to use, simple to learn and it has a unique feature named the Kirby panel that lets you control how the content is added, whether it be a blog post, page, or a gallery. RazorCMS is another good flat file CMS that has most of the features of a full fledged blogging system but is very small, fast and has a simple learning curve.

All the CMS systems I mentioned and these are just a few of the many that are out there, these are all flt file systems. The biggest difference you will see in a flat CMS is that it does not require a database. A flat CMS stores any website data or content in files and folders only. Without querying to retrieve content from the database, you enjoy the rapid loading of your website. You can also skip the cumbersome installation process; simply upload files to the server and the website is ready.

There are some unique advantages to a flat file system and they tend to be more secure. Now if you plan to have hundreds of pages they can be a little more difficult to maintain. But for a small system these would serve you well.

Personally I would write my own, especially if you plan to be doing this for awhile. The knowledge you would gain would be a great asset as you developed your web master skills. But again that is just a personal opinion.

I hope this helps.
So without a database then this will make my site load faster? Is it better to have a database of a site without one? I just do not know about these things. Thank you for the help dude.
 

ProfMike

Active Member
So without a database then this will make my site load faster? Is it better to have a database of a site without one? I just do not know about these things. Thank you for the help dude.

The question of whether it is a better to have a database or not depends mainly on the size of the content that you are displaying on your site. Flat CMS systems are normally much faster as long as they are not reading really large flat text files.

If you want to PM me and give me some specifics on what you are trying to do I will do what I can to help you select the right system for what you are trying to deploy.
 

KeralMTG

Active Member
The question of whether it is a better to have a database or not depends mainly on the size of the content that you are displaying on your site. Flat CMS systems are normally much faster as long as they are not reading really large flat text files.

If you want to PM me and give me some specifics on what you are trying to do I will do what I can to help you select the right system for what you are trying to deploy.
Sorry I missed your reply till now. It did not show in my alerts.

I was just thinking that something more simple than wordpress might be better and load faster. Mostly I will just have some posts with a couple images but not that big. Just a landing page and a page that has my blog posts listed and then they can go to the full posts by clicking on a link or the blog post title.

I looked at some of those you mentioned and they seem a little confusing. Is there one that is easier for someone who has not used it before?
 

ProfMike

Active Member
I am having the same issue with the alerts, it must be a quirk in the system.

It funny you should reply now. I teach for a University and they have requested that I put together a video series on building a CMS (Content Management System) for one of my upcoming classes. When I complete that series of videos they will be available on my website.

I am about halfway through the series now. I have them all written I am just working on the video recordings and video productions. At best guess it is going to run about 6 to 8 hours in length and will take the viewer through a step-by-step process of building their own CMS system.

I am using BootStrap, MySQL, PHP, HTML and CMS. It is a pretty complete system, to include an Admin Panel and a comment system. It is being written to optimize on SEO and using "Best Practices" in programming. This will be an extremely fast and streamlined CMS system.

I may even add additional functionality once the class participants start giving me feedback on what they would like to see.

If you want to get an idea on how the videos are produced check out the site. I have hundreds of FREE videos to view and a few training sets that are available for purchase.

I have had many people ask me to write a CMS series and I guess it just took the University to motivate me to produce it. It takes so long to write one effectively, there is about 16 to 20 hours of work with each hour of production, that is the reason it has taken me awhile to put one together.

Let me know if I can help you.
 

KeralMTG

Active Member
I am having the same issue with the alerts, it must be a quirk in the system.

It funny you should reply now. I teach for a University and they have requested that I put together a video series on building a CMS (Content Management System) for one of my upcoming classes. When I complete that series of videos they will be available on my website.

I am about halfway through the series now. I have them all written I am just working on the video recordings and video productions. At best guess it is going to run about 6 to 8 hours in length and will take the viewer through a step-by-step process of building their own CMS system.

I am using BootStrap, MySQL, PHP, HTML and CMS. It is a pretty complete system, to include an Admin Panel and a comment system. It is being written to optimize on SEO and using "Best Practices" in programming. This will be an extremely fast and streamlined CMS system.

I may even add additional functionality once the class participants start giving me feedback on what they would like to see.

If you want to get an idea on how the videos are produced check out the site. I have hundreds of FREE videos to view and a few training sets that are available for purchase.

I have had many people ask me to write a CMS series and I guess it just took the University to motivate me to produce it. It takes so long to write one effectively, there is about 16 to 20 hours of work with each hour of production, that is the reason it has taken me awhile to put one together.

Let me know if I can help you.
Up to 20 hours of work for 1 hour of the video! You must have to work many hours each week to keep up with the needs you must fill.

When you make the cms videos for the university then do they own them or can you also sell them on your website? A full course for a cms will be a good series for many people.
 

ProfMike

Active Member
My weeks can stay very busy but that is the way I like it actually. I have always been a person that stays busy. I really do not like watching Television or bar hopping so it has been pretty easy to stay focused. Besides I really enjoy teaching and have been doing it a long time.

No the courses I develop belong completely to me. As I develop an actual classroom class, many times, if the subject fits, I will develop a video class to go along with the material. That may take me a little longer to actually finish the class but I have received some very positive feedback from the students using that method.

Many individuals learn much faster by watching and then doing. The follow along approach works very well and the videos allow me to do that.

Also, people learn at different paces. I may say something to one student one time in passing and that student has it down cold, while another student I may have to say it multiple times and demonstrate it multiple times before they begin to get it. It is just they way they learn.

Many of them are embarrassed to ask in the class to over it again, they tend to think they are the only one not getting it, that usually is not true. By using the video, they can go over it as many times as they want until they get it, and many of them ask me questions through the website. It is a win - win. They can watch the presentation over and over and if they have a question they can do it through he website.

But getting back to your question. All my material belongs to me, I have used my time, my money, and my tools to develop it all and it all goes up on the website once I complete and check it for accuracy.

Thanks for the question, it was a good one.
 

KeralMTG

Active Member
My weeks can stay very busy but that is the way I like it actually. I have always been a person that stays busy. I really do not like watching Television or bar hopping so it has been pretty easy to stay focused. Besides I really enjoy teaching and have been doing it a long time.

No the courses I develop belong completely to me. As I develop an actual classroom class, many times, if the subject fits, I will develop a video class to go along with the material. That may take me a little longer to actually finish the class but I have received some very positive feedback from the students using that method.

Many individuals learn much faster by watching and then doing. The follow along approach works very well and the videos allow me to do that.

Also, people learn at different paces. I may say something to one student one time in passing and that student has it down cold, while another student I may have to say it multiple times and demonstrate it multiple times before they begin to get it. It is just they way they learn.

Many of them are embarrassed to ask in the class to over it again, they tend to think they are the only one not getting it, that usually is not true. By using the video, they can go over it as many times as they want until they get it, and many of them ask me questions through the website. It is a win - win. They can watch the presentation over and over and if they have a question they can do it through he website.

But getting back to your question. All my material belongs to me, I have used my time, my money, and my tools to develop it all and it all goes up on the website once I complete and check it for accuracy.

Thanks for the question, it was a good one.
I think that watching and then doing is the best way. I also think it is good to have the videos to go back and look at if you are stuck or forget something.

Many people in my business classes are the same way. They do not want to ask the professor a question because they think they are the only one who does not understand something. You will never learn if you do not ask questions is what one of my professors says all the time.
 

ulterios

Well-Known Member
I don't think the CMS used for a marketing blog makes much difference on the success of that site. I think that a person should use what they like and will do what they need it to do whether it's a standard CMS or something that was custom made.

What's on the site makes a difference on how much success the site is able to achieve, not the CMS that is used to build that site. ;)
 

ProfMike

Active Member
As I discussed in an earlier post on this thread I was working on a Content Management System (CMS) course on how to develop your own Blog System that is completely self contained and database driven. This has been 7 months in the making but it has finally been completed and checked out by my University class. The course is over 17 hours in length and takes you step by step in creating your own blog system from scratch.

I have never really liked WordPress, Joomla or the other large CMS systems as they just are too slow and bloated for the majority of the users out there that are using them. Check it out, it goes right along with this conversation, you may find that you would rather write your own blog system.

https://www.ontargethtml5.com/_sales/build-a-cms-system.php - Link to the Course Description.

https://www.ontargethtml5.com/_previews/cms/cms_preview.mp4 - Link to the Preview Video
 
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